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Robyn Graham interviewed Kira Hug on The Second Phase Podcast. Kira shared how to create copy that converts. On the podcast graphic is a photo of Kira wearing a white shirt and bright yellow blazer sitting at a desk and holding white papers with a green vintage phone on the desk to her right and a stack of two books on her left. She is in front of a hot pink backdrop. On the left side of the graphic is a photo of Robyn sitting on a white rug wearing jeans and a black t-shirt holding a coffee mug.

Robyn Graham interviewed Kira Hug on The Second Phase Podcast. Kira shared how to create copy that converts.