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Robyn Graham and Judy Weber interviewed each other for the second phase podcast and the joyful scaling podcast with the focus of being a Christian entrepreneur in a secularized world. On the second phase podcast graphic is a photo of Judy wearing a white lace blouse with a string of large pearls leaning her chin on her fist, smiling and looking at the camera.

Robyn Graham and Judy Weber interviewed each other for the second phase podcast and the joyful scaling podcast with the focus of being a Christian entrepreneur in a secularized world.